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Events & Destinations / Re: Arlington Fly In 2017
« Last post by ErikU on June 23, 2017, 11:49:01 PM »
That's neat.  Summer has quite an interesting history, and several years ago she brought her Student Prince, also a great story.  Plus, she gave me my instrument check-ride!

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Events & Destinations / Re: Arlington Fly In 2017
« Last post by hotrod180 on June 23, 2017, 08:24:33 PM »
Unfair and Untrue!   ....

It may be unfair but it is true.
But for good reasons as smutney points out.

But there have been a few exceptions...
I remember years ago an aerobatic glider performance.
A DeHavilland Chipmunk performance.
A clipped-wing T-Craft performance.
And, returning again this year, my friend Summer Martell performing in a Cessna 150 Aerobat--
an airplane that a lot of people have gotten introduced to aerobatics in.
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Events & Destinations / Re: Arlington Fly In 2017
« Last post by smutny on June 23, 2017, 07:26:43 PM »
I wish they had a better dichotomy for airshow aircraft and acts, it's been the exact same show for years,

I totally agree, but let me tell you why I'm left with little option.  The aerobatic box can only support CAT III aircraft, it goes from 800' to 60' to 1200' wide.  That cannot support CAT II (warbird) or CAT I (jet) aerobatics.  The only performers I can put in there are the flip flop acts.  We do try to diversify, but there are not a lot of acts that come to the NW without requiring a lot of cash to transit.  Since I work the Tacoma show right before Arlington, we try to work together on the acts to spread the travel fees.  I really wanted to bring an awesome powered parachute act, but it was upwards of $12,000.  The budget just wasn't there.

We are going to have a Growler fly over on Friday afternoon.  But Arlington isn't (nor was it ever) big enough to get a weekend flyby under current regs.  The times that fighters did come for static (before the DoD increased the minimum runway length) was at the graces of military personnel wanting to fly a jet home to visit family.  DoD rules prohibit setting an airshow as part of a regular training mission, they are additional flights the crews must volunteer for and the squadron must have available hours to burn.  The rules have changed drastically after Sequestration.

So, while I agree it would be great to diversify, there are not a lot of options.
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Events & Destinations / Re: Arlington Fly In 2017
« Last post by Klaus on June 23, 2017, 06:50:40 PM »
  I truly appreciate a critic. No one needs to agree or disagree. There has been a lot of changes over the decades and the biggest one is the lack of participants. No question that it's much much easier to be negative and complain than participate and improve.

  I personally never heard of a volunteer being refused. Maybe I'm wrong and one of the many contributes on this forum can correct me...?
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Events & Destinations / Re: Arlington Fly In 2017
« Last post by will moffitt on June 23, 2017, 06:43:43 PM »
Because I have a small agile biplane the airshows are not the main attraction even though I watch them and admire their abilities.  I don't know what more you could want from a performance.   I enjoy  the whole gig, even looking at the Cessna's.  I guess I like the antiques the most because of the craftsmanship that went into the originals and the restorations.  I remember in the 70's when the Mitchel's were lined up for departure.  That was a show.

will
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Events & Destinations / Re: Arlington Fly In 2017
« Last post by tonyrob on June 23, 2017, 05:24:17 PM »
Unfair and Untrue!

BTW - Do you volunteer there?
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I love this, BTW!

From:http://airportsbase.org/United_States/Washington/Lake_Stevens/Ed_Large_Field

"Ed Large Field is the most important airport of Lake Stevens, Washington, United_States. It is modern and one of the largest airport of the North America. Ed Large Field is important for people and goverment of United States."
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I went Google surfing a few months ago and I was surprised to see this one on certain maps still.  Clearly the field is grown in, but are there any photos of when it was open?  Paul Freeman, whom does a terrific webpage dedicated to Abandoned and Little known (lost) Airports loves this kind of info. 
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Semantics, but it's spelled "Allan" Island. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Island_(Washington)
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Events & Destinations / Re: Arlington Fly In 2017
« Last post by OnYourSix on June 23, 2017, 02:07:38 PM »
I wish they had a better dichotomy for airshow aircraft and acts, it's been the exact same show for years, with the caveat of the warbirds.  The only change is usually whatever John Sessions or Paul Allen decide to bring over.

It gets boring for my kids when the line-up goes something like this:

"And here is (insert name) flying their Pitts"
Up next is (insert name) flying his aerobatic Sukhoi Su-29 doing the exact same maneuvers as the Pitts!"
"Up next we have someone else doing the exact same maneuvers as the other two acts, but this time in an Extra 300"
"Next we have a Super Stearman doing a slower show, but pretty much all the same maneuvers that the last three have done, just slower"
"By the way folks, this has been the exact same performers for the airshow for the past five years".

More warbird banana passes, more radial engines, an AlphaJet, some variation would be great.  How about some current military demos or fly-overs?
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