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Confusion over course reversal in RNAV approaches
« on: April 24, 2016, 02:43:36 PM »
Why are there always confusions (that includes ATC!) on whether a course reversal is needed in an RNAV approach?  Came in today at PAE's RNAV 34L approach - ATC sent me direct IAF and cleared me for the approach.  I started the course reversal at IAF using the published course reversal holding pattern and ATC sounded surprised by it - she expected me to just turn and head straight to FAF.  The reg clearly says that a course reversal is needed unless I'm vectored to the final approach course. (or arriving from a noPT leg, or a timed approach from a holding fix).


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Re: Confusion over course reversal in RNAV approaches
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2016, 04:45:10 PM »
Were you "cleared straight in" (i.e., no course reversal)? If you're ever in doubt, confirm that with ATC as early as possible.

My usual practice when receiving an approach clearance where a PT might be expected but I'm receiving vectors is to include "...cleared straight in..." or "confirm cleared straight in" in my readback. Saves potential confusion.

See AIM 5−4−6. Approach Clearance and 5−4−9. Procedure Turn and Hold−in−lieu of Procedure Turn

b. Limitations on Procedure Turns
1. In the case of a radar initial approach to a final approach fix or position, or a timed approach from a holding fix, or where the procedure specifies NoPT, no pilot may make a procedure turn unless, when final approach clearance is received, the pilot so advises ATC and a clearance is received to execute a procedure turn. (AIM 5-4-9)
KBFI/A36/Extra 300L